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. >>> if the 2016 presidential election were held today, secretary of state hillary clinton would be a shoo-in. according to a new "washington post"/abc news poll 57% would support clinton to succeed president obama. 37% would not. ted nugent weighs in on the fiscal cliff fiasco something he said we drove off a long time ago. he writes in "the washington times" social security, medicaid and medicare spending needs to be slaughtered and let's stop the insanity of the right to vote of any american on welfare. once they get off well taer and are self-sustaining they get their right restored. no american on welfare should have the right to vote for tax increases on those americans working and paying taxes to support them. >>> and "the daily show's" jon stewart says maybe we should go off the fiscal cliff. >> back and forth of offers. it's pretty clear the republicans aren't going to come to the table with anything reasonable. i'll be the one to say it, i know it will be disastrous and doom our economy for years to come, let's go over the [ bleep ] cliff. fine. just leave the negotiating
. >>> if the 2016 presidential election were held today, secretary of state hillary clinton would be a shoo-in. according to a new "washington post"/abc news poll 57% would support clinton to succeed president obama. 37% would not. ted nugent weighs in on the fiscal cliff fiasco something he said we drove off a long time ago. he writes in "the washington times" social security, medicaid and medicare spending needs to be slaughtered and let's stop the insanity of the...
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budget and the clinton economic policies. they are saying we're not voting for a tax rise or a tax cut. we're kind of abstaining all around. well, if that's their position, fine. i think they call that not leading. >> secretary reich, what do you make of that? we talk about kibuki theater. is anything more kibuki than that, voting present instead of yes, abstaining instead of casting a vote one way or another? >> it's a game within a game within a game. and it's an insiders game. the fact of the matter is most americans, even if they're called republicans, even if they consider themselves conservatives, they understand that 98% of americans do deserve a tax cut, a continuation of the bush tax cuts. and they understand that the rich have never been as rich, and they've never paid an effective tax rate that is as low in living memory. if we have a budget deficit at all, it is only fair. and you don't have to be -- again you don't have to be a republican, you can be a common sense republican to understand that this requires that
budget and the clinton economic policies. they are saying we're not voting for a tax rise or a tax cut. we're kind of abstaining all around. well, if that's their position, fine. i think they call that not leading. >> secretary reich, what do you make of that? we talk about kibuki theater. is anything more kibuki than that, voting present instead of yes, abstaining instead of casting a vote one way or another? >> it's a game within a game within a game. and it's an insiders game....
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not very long ago that was a wedge issue bob dole was using against bill clinton. i think we've made progress in some other areas. clearly be done and we have the deniers of global warming, but we're reducing the amount of oil that we import. there is progress in that regard. on the other hand, there's been, i think, retrogression in the recognition of two of the great accomplishments of america in the 20th century, with social security and medicare. before those two, we did not have the possibility for the average older person who wasn't wealthy to have a decent existence in retirement. we now have that. i'm sorry to see that pulled back. there's also an international event, for the first time, and i think we have to recognize this. from 1940 to 1990 we had very heavily armed, very bad people threatening our very existence as a society. even though we may have exaggerated that a little bit at the end. we don't have that anymore. we have murderous thugs and terrorists but they're not the nazis or communists. they don't threaten our very existence. we have an abilit
not very long ago that was a wedge issue bob dole was using against bill clinton. i think we've made progress in some other areas. clearly be done and we have the deniers of global warming, but we're reducing the amount of oil that we import. there is progress in that regard. on the other hand, there's been, i think, retrogression in the recognition of two of the great accomplishments of america in the 20th century, with social security and medicare. before those two, we did not have the...
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hillary clinton taking this picture with meryl streep. >> you want to win the world series. do you quit, 1-0? no. you keep going. you keep going. do you quit when you're done 1-0 in debates?
hillary clinton taking this picture with meryl streep. >> you want to win the world series. do you quit, 1-0? no. you keep going. you keep going. do you quit when you're done 1-0 in debates?
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clinton era 39.6%. do you think the democrats and republicans will agree to go down the middle there with about a 37% tax rate on the top 2%? >> alex, the fact is they've been talking about these issues for more than a year since those grand bargain talks between speaker boehner and president obama in 2011. and we know the shape of a likely deal. it would be exactly that. about a 37% tax rate hike for top earners in this country. we know that secretary geithner and president obama have spoken of being open to that idea. and john boehner did himself yesterday, although after he did so in a question and answer period with reporters he then put out a statement saying he wasn't really meaning to open that door. but we know the parameters of a deal. it likely will include some kind of tax rate hike, although not to clinton levels for top earners, and some savings in medicare and medicaid. i think that is the likely shape of the likely deal. >> meredith, louisiana's gop governor bobby jindal wrote an op ed th
clinton era 39.6%. do you think the democrats and republicans will agree to go down the middle there with about a 37% tax rate on the top 2%? >> alex, the fact is they've been talking about these issues for more than a year since those grand bargain talks between speaker boehner and president obama in 2011. and we know the shape of a likely deal. it would be exactly that. about a 37% tax rate hike for top earners in this country. we know that secretary geithner and president obama have...
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bush lost the white house to bill clinton. the same year, yugoslavia started breaking apart, south africans voted to end apartheid and the prince and principles is of wales, better known as charles and diana officially separated. today's flashback comes from nbc nightly news, december 9th, 1992. >>> began as a royal romance but quickly faded. britain's prince charles and lady diana. in the latter years, a troubled marriage and mostly separate lives, she reportedly described it as a loveless misalliance. well, today official word -- the union is over. nbc's rick davis has more tonight from london. rick? >> katie, the last time a prime minister spoke publicly of the troubled lives of the royal family was in 1936. stanley baldwin announced the abdication of edward the viii, today it was about the end of a love affair. it was the stuff of fairy tales. the engagement of a shy young woman to a prince and future king. it was the wedding the world watched. princess was hailed as the jewel in the crown. but, there were rumors of troubl
bush lost the white house to bill clinton. the same year, yugoslavia started breaking apart, south africans voted to end apartheid and the prince and principles is of wales, better known as charles and diana officially separated. today's flashback comes from nbc nightly news, december 9th, 1992. >>> began as a royal romance but quickly faded. britain's prince charles and lady diana. in the latter years, a troubled marriage and mostly separate lives, she reportedly described it as a...
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not very long ago that was a wedge issue bob dole was using against bill clinton. i think we've made progress in other areas. clearly environmentally. we have deniers of global warming. but we're reducing the amount of oil we import and use. there's progress in that regard. on the other hand, there's been some retrogregs in the recognition of two of the great accomplishments of america in the 20th century with social security and medicare. before those two, we didn't have the possibility for the average old person who wasn't wealthy to have a decent existence in retirement. we now that v that and i'm sorry to see that pulled back. there's also an international event. we have to recognize this. from 1940 to 1990, we had very heavily-armed, bad people threatening our existence as a society. we don't have that anymore. we have the thugs. they are not the communists. they don't threaten our very existence. we have an ability now, i believe, to reduce some of the resources and do more things at home. although there's an ideological barrier. >> i know you love the congre
not very long ago that was a wedge issue bob dole was using against bill clinton. i think we've made progress in other areas. clearly environmentally. we have deniers of global warming. but we're reducing the amount of oil we import and use. there's progress in that regard. on the other hand, there's been some retrogregs in the recognition of two of the great accomplishments of america in the 20th century with social security and medicare. before those two, we didn't have the possibility for...
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then the tax rates will go back to the clinton levels. the rest of it will happen automatically, and, you know, the republicans are trying to do this complicated scenario where they vote present. if they don't vote and the democrats vote, it's this ritual where the dmgz do all the voting, and the republicans kind of stand by, and i think they're right to do that, because then you've got a trillion of revenue automatically locked in. then, you know, obama is asking for another $600 billion, and will he probably settle for less. that trade gets very easy to make, so this idea that they need to do it all at once, i think, is totally mistaken. >> don't you think that the president has been very firm about not making a deal unless the debt ceiling negotiations are included in the package, and to me that says i'm ready to play on entitlement because there's no way he is going to get anything from them unless he makes -- he plays on social security and medicare. >> they may know -- he may be are ready to play. they may know he is ready to play,
then the tax rates will go back to the clinton levels. the rest of it will happen automatically, and, you know, the republicans are trying to do this complicated scenario where they vote present. if they don't vote and the democrats vote, it's this ritual where the dmgz do all the voting, and the republicans kind of stand by, and i think they're right to do that, because then you've got a trillion of revenue automatically locked in. then, you know, obama is asking for another $600 billion, and...
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he loves the bill clinton era, how about returning to bill clinton era spending in proportion? >> wouldn't that be nice? how about return to the bill clinton era on capital gains rates? it was bill clinton who pushed it down. now president obama is pushing it way up. yet it would be nice to return to the basis of bill clinton, but that's not what we're doing. we're taking a little bit more here, a little bit more there, a little bit more over there. all to pay for all of this wonderful spending that the president wants. >> steve: maybe in four years when hillary runs for president. you have got to figure that's going to happen. >> i wonder what's going to happen to the economy. it's weak now, you raise taxes a little bit more, what happens to the economy? >> steve: so many people have been forecasting that the president does raise rates, couple of years ago, he said during a recession, that's the worst time to jack up rates. now we're not technically in a recession, but we're in a very soft edge. >> watch out, steve, 'cause here it comes, a little bit more. >> steve: thank you
he loves the bill clinton era, how about returning to bill clinton era spending in proportion? >> wouldn't that be nice? how about return to the bill clinton era on capital gains rates? it was bill clinton who pushed it down. now president obama is pushing it way up. yet it would be nice to return to the basis of bill clinton, but that's not what we're doing. we're taking a little bit more here, a little bit more there, a little bit more over there. all to pay for all of this wonderful...
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clinton also has strong support in her home state of new york. in a siena college poll, 64% of new york voters say she should make a run, but new yorkers aren't as enthusiastic about their current governor jumping into the race. just 39% support a cuomo 2016 presidential bid. a little early. >> it is early. >> i think she will. i think she will. >> have you ever seen a clinton, julia reed, pass up an election in which they're eligible to run in? >> were you shaking your head a little bit? >> no, no. and i think she'll run. >> yeah. >> again, over in china, that was a big question. >> stop. >> no, seriously. >> no, i get asked everywhere. >> is hillary going to run? >> absolutely. >> really? >> yep. they know who she is big time. >> biden. >> suppose she makes the decision and decides to run, you paralyze the democratic side. no donors are going to move, rightly so, because they want to find out -- >> and it completely influences the republican side because they're going to have to get somebody that can raise a bunch of money -- >> that's what mik
clinton also has strong support in her home state of new york. in a siena college poll, 64% of new york voters say she should make a run, but new yorkers aren't as enthusiastic about their current governor jumping into the race. just 39% support a cuomo 2016 presidential bid. a little early. >> it is early. >> i think she will. i think she will. >> have you ever seen a clinton, julia reed, pass up an election in which they're eligible to run in? >> were you shaking your...
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. >> chris christie against hillary clinton would be -- >> it would be a barn burner. >> one is careful and professional. the other is a wild swinger, you don't know what he's going to do, overweight, the whole thing. wow, what an election. thank you, michael steele. happy weekend. joy reid, relax this weekend. >>> welcome back to "hardball." time for the "sideshow." first, governor chris christie, as i said, is an outrageous bruce springsteen fan. he's been to over 100 of the boss' concerts, but self-proclaimed liberal bruce himself hasn't returned the love until lately. last night christie told jon stewart about meeting springsteen at the nbc telethon for hurricane sandy. >> i was on the stage afterwards talking to steve van zandt and max, and all of a sudden they were looking behind me. they moved away and stopped talking. so i turned around, and there he was. >> and there he was. >> there he was. >> and he gave you -- >> he put his hand out, and i shook his hand. i tried to be cool, i wasn't. >> no. >> and then he said, come on, give me a hug. and i said, all right. and i hugged
. >> chris christie against hillary clinton would be -- >> it would be a barn burner. >> one is careful and professional. the other is a wild swinger, you don't know what he's going to do, overweight, the whole thing. wow, what an election. thank you, michael steele. happy weekend. joy reid, relax this weekend. >>> welcome back to "hardball." time for the "sideshow." first, governor chris christie, as i said, is an outrageous bruce springsteen...
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i think michelle obama will take bill clinton. >> stephanie: i am so enjoying a bill clinton corkscrew. i do not have the hilary nutcracker yet. conservative actor steven bald win arrested for failing to file three year's of tax returns. [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> uh-huh. he is one of those fake christian guys. >> stephanie: he is accused of owing more than $350,000 to the state of new york. >> wow. maybe we can bad mouth bono some more. >> stephanie: everybody hold your jokes. [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> stephanie: john travolta collects hot chocolate. he collects various kinds of hot coco from around the world. he said it represents winter wonderland and christmas. he went on to explain how people should handle hot coco. he said never blow on it. never ever blow it changes the quality of the chocolate. >> that's the gayest thing i have ever heard. >> if you have a gay sex scandal with three different masseurs. don't have an album cover to handle your gay panic scandal, because he is wearing a hot toddy, and is wearing [ inaudible ]. >> stephanie: speaking of
i think michelle obama will take bill clinton. >> stephanie: i am so enjoying a bill clinton corkscrew. i do not have the hilary nutcracker yet. conservative actor steven bald win arrested for failing to file three year's of tax returns. [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> uh-huh. he is one of those fake christian guys. >> stephanie: he is accused of owing more than $350,000 to the state of new york. >> wow. maybe we can bad mouth bono some more. >>...
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good friend of bill clinton's played golf with president obama and bill clinton last sunday. versus this extreme radical tea partier, ken cuccinelli who is the todd akin of virginia. man, that's going to be a good challenge. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." every day presents another exciting issue. from financial regulation, iran getting a nuclear bomb, civil war in syria, fraud on wall street, destruction of medicare and medicaid. there are real issues here. having been a governor, i know that trade-offs are tough. things everyday exploding around the world that leave no shortage for exciting conversations. i want our viewer to understand why things have happened. at the end of the show, you know what has happened, why its happened and more importantly, what's going to happen tomorrow. >> announcer: radio meets television. the "bill press show" now on current tv. >> bill: 33 minutes after the hour now. busy day here on the "full court press" this thursday, december 6th. good to you have with us today. don't forget, you can join the conversation any time at 1-866
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>> it republicans are not willing to let rates go back up, and we think they should go back to the clinton levels, a the a time when the american economy was doing exceptionally well, then there will not be an agreement. >> while geithner was drawing a line in the sand, house speaker john boehner was busy trying to lift his jaw off the flar after geithner presented the president's debt reduction plans to him last week. >> i was just flabbergasted. i looked at him and said you can't be serious. i have just never seen anything like it. >> yes, indeed, it seems that republicans are not quite sure what to make of the president taking a harder line across the bargaining table. >> you know, the president's idea of a negotiation is roll over and do what i ask. >> i think we're going over the cliff. it's pretty clear to me they made a political calculation. the president's plan is just, quite frankly, a joke. >> i'm not sure about that, senator graham, but there will be plenty of time for jokes later this evening with every member of congress invited to the white house for what may be the most awk
>> it republicans are not willing to let rates go back up, and we think they should go back to the clinton levels, a the a time when the american economy was doing exceptionally well, then there will not be an agreement. >> while geithner was drawing a line in the sand, house speaker john boehner was busy trying to lift his jaw off the flar after geithner presented the president's debt reduction plans to him last week. >> i was just flabbergasted. i looked at him and said you...
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hillary clinton has to be aware of all this support. where do you think that the secretary stands right now? >> well, as she said, she wants to take some time off, perhaps hopefully get a grandchild, really unwind. she said in a couple interviews now. but she's done nothing to tamp down speculation at all that she could run again in four years. and in politics, unless you issue a sherman-esque statement absolutely no and say those kinds of words, it's not really a no. it's a maybe. >> sherman-esque statement. david, let me bring you in because one of the things we heard from secretary clinton this week was her defensive viewing of ambassador susan rice who continues to come under fire from some republicans for comments she made on the attack in the u.s. consulate in benghazi. take a listen. >> susan rice has done a great job as our u.n. ambassador. she has been a stalwart colleague in a lot of the tough decisions that we've had to make. and certainly with respect to defending our national interests and national security at the united na
hillary clinton has to be aware of all this support. where do you think that the secretary stands right now? >> well, as she said, she wants to take some time off, perhaps hopefully get a grandchild, really unwind. she said in a couple interviews now. but she's done nothing to tamp down speculation at all that she could run again in four years. and in politics, unless you issue a sherman-esque statement absolutely no and say those kinds of words, it's not really a no. it's a maybe....
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did he specify the 39.6% rate of the clinton years? he did not. so is there a little give ultimately to sort of say what if it doesn't go up to 39.6%, but say 37%, is that something the white house would accept? also, this that same interview, the president raised the possibility, which is that after you do tax reform and you close loopholes and deductions, that if the rate is raised, the top rate, there's always a possibility that after you do tax reform, of course, the top rate would then go down again. so it was -- you have to listen to the president very carefully to see where there might be some give. the problem from my point of view is that everybody knows what's got to be done in the long-term. it's the question of the short-term deal. >> john boehner, speaker of the house, he came up with a proposal. but not all the conservatives in the house and the senate are on board. jim demint, republican senator from south carolina. >> this is a time to negotiate with ourselves. we need to invite the president to work with us. his proposal was so ou
did he specify the 39.6% rate of the clinton years? he did not. so is there a little give ultimately to sort of say what if it doesn't go up to 39.6%, but say 37%, is that something the white house would accept? also, this that same interview, the president raised the possibility, which is that after you do tax reform and you close loopholes and deductions, that if the rate is raised, the top rate, there's always a possibility that after you do tax reform, of course, the top rate would then go...
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hillary clinton finally came out and gave a strong endorsement to susan rice. some people, including maureen dowd, would suggest maybe that took a little longer than was necessary. >> it was striking. it was striking how long it took. and it didn't go unnoticed, obviously. >> she's traveling. >> you see john kerry being embraced by republicans. i think a lot of democrats would also like him to be the next secretary of state. where are we in that fight? we have so many issues that are on the front pages now. i think the president needs to get his person in as soon as possible. >> well, my sense is that secretary clinton weighing in perhaps suggests that the nomination is coming soon. i've talked to people on all sides of this. there's no question that benghazi continues to be litigated. even on the democratic side, there is some division on this. i've talked to democratic senators who have questioned whether she has the standing, the stature, to be secretary of state. so obviously there's some division about how people view susan rice. but here's the bottom line
hillary clinton finally came out and gave a strong endorsement to susan rice. some people, including maureen dowd, would suggest maybe that took a little longer than was necessary. >> it was striking. it was striking how long it took. and it didn't go unnoticed, obviously. >> she's traveling. >> you see john kerry being embraced by republicans. i think a lot of democrats would also like him to be the next secretary of state. where are we in that fight? we have so many issues...